Read p. 453-458 in your text on Freud.
Now that you have been introduced to some of Sigmund Freud's theory, tell me what part of his structure of the personality makes sense to you. Also if something sounds ridiculous, comment on it, too. Explain why it makes sense or why it does not.
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Sigmund Freud proposed many theories about people and their personalities. I believe that his most interesting theory was that the unconscious could be revealed in unintentional actions. I am living example for this theory. Last week when Mr. Yip subconsciously planted the word sleep into our minds, he completely proved Freud’s theory when more than half of the class wrote the word ‘sleep’ down when the word sleep was not one he had ever said. Also while I read, I continued to look at the picture (on page 456) with the iceberg, describing the id, ego, superego etc. I could not help but wonder how Freud came to rationalize that whole scene. I truly believe that all of Freud’s theories are very true, as well as very interesting.
ReplyDeleteWell, here is my "theory" on Sigmund Freud
ReplyDeleteA lot of his points are accurate but others I really disagree with. One point in particular i do not agree with is that fact that people do dangerous things because of the Thanatos. I honestly don't think that people think "i want to do this because of the fact that there is a chance i will die." No one goes skydiving because theres a chance of death. They go because its an awesome experience and looks awesome. However, i do agree with the idea of repressed thoughts. I believe that people push horrible memories deep in the back of their brain so they don't have to relive/think about them. Coincidentally, I watched the new A Nightmare on Elm Street which had to do with repressed memories. The characters in the movie don't know who the man in their nightmares is but its actually a man from their childhood who used to rape them. I'll further elaborate in class
P.S. See what i did there? My "theory" about Sigmund Freud? Its ironic because hes a theorist
ReplyDeleteEvan Doucette,
ReplyDeleteAnthony i see what you did there, it was very clever. I too agree with Anthony that people dont particpate in something because there is a risk of death. I just dont think there is someone that dumb out there that would do something because there was a chance that they die, i dont see how this could be exciting. I do believe they do it for the attention from others because they did something so dangerous. Like i have said before i dont believe people are stupid enough to do something for the risk of death i think it is more for gain attention.
i believe that Freud theories about the sub conscious on how you can mix up memories is very good point because many people have been accused of crimes when they never did anything. i was watching this movie based on a true story of a boxer who was accused of a crime by a witness and the descriptions did not fit him. the main argument was based on his car and the car was not even a match to his. so freud s theories about the sub conscious and how you can confuse people/memories or just push them so far back that its even deeper than the sub conscious. also the id is about survival and that makes sense because all species have that instinct and survive by eating and reproducing. thats why the male teenagers is always hungry and only think about sex because its built into our DNA and is a second instinct to us.
ReplyDeletethe idea of our minds having conscious, subconscious, and instinctual features is a sound theory. the conscious is an obvious part of the human mind, it is present in our lives as our thoughts from when we wake till when we sleep. the id, or instinctual part of our minds, is also clearly a part of us. when we require food, we don't need to pass out from hunger, instead our minds percieve our body's instinctual desire for food and satiates it.
ReplyDeletethe subconscious, or superego, is a more subtle part of our psychology. it has to do with our moral biases and other stored information. i feel that the line between the ego and superego is placed by freud in the wrong place. i disagree with his characterization of this part of the preconscious because it's not as "pre"conscious as it is made out to be. I can recall my feelings on morality and various other aspects of my preconscious and use the various ego defense mechanisms to change these biases.
I would like to comment on the fact that I see what anthony did there. He used the word theory as a joke, implying that it was ironic by making a theory about someone who made theories. kindof like a fire station being set on fire, except anthony isnt fire and a theorist doesnt use axes and hoses to put out theories.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think that Freud was a wacko, and while i do agree with his concept of id, ego, and superego and the struggle between them, I find his personality development theory to be absolutely ridiculous. People who like to smoke cigarettes do so because they have unresolved issues from before they could differentiate objects and people in the earliest years of life? Really? because I thought it was chemically based in nicotine dependency. People are bags of chemicals, and little more. You know what would make psychoanalysis really effective? stop asking the patient about how his dreams correlate with his depression and give him a selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor.Or better yet, give him cocaine. Go figure, the one chemical that Freud advocated was the one he was completely wrong about. He was the worst kind of theorist: the kind whose theories couldnt be disproved, because his theses were so broad everything fit under them, and when one didnt he got it in under a technicality. Winning the game is easy when you make the rules.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree with Freud's theory as to why people are either, Anal Retentive, or Anal Expulsive. I don't feel that if a baby is potty trained late, or trained early, it effects a person's habit's when they get older. I don't think this because I am not just Retentive or Expulsive, I am both. But only about certain things. When it comes to school I am completely Anal Retentive. Everything always has to be perfectly organized, my notes need to be neat. However, at home my room is a complete mess. I don't care about that. And I feel a lot of people are this way. I don't agree that the point in our life where we were potty trained can determine how we are going to be as adults as far as organization goes.
ReplyDeleteFreud puts people into two catagories in each stage of their young lives. I truly don't agree. People can change based on certain curcumstances in their lives. Not from when they where potty trained or when they where held in their diaper to late. I truly think his theory is a bunch of crap. Stages in early life may influence you some what when you are an adult but it won't tell you if you will be messy or if your organized just because of potty training. His theory is so broad and undefined that anything can fit under it. Just because someone is messy doesn't relate to potty training in anyway what so ever.
ReplyDeleteI think that Freuds theory of id, ego, and superego are the strongest and most back up. These theories are unconsciously preformed everyday which leads me to believe that this makes the most sense. It is also among the most intriguing and interesting theories. However i feel that Freuds idea of stages of life can changed and edited to fit the truth. His stages of life are bent and shaped to fit his own stages of life. These stages fit personally to his own childhood experiences. With editing and presenting it right i feel that his stages of life can be shown in a clear and correct manor.
ReplyDeleteJessica
ReplyDeleteSigmund Freud brought up a lot of points that make sense. His way of thinking is very different and maybe hard to agree with sometimes but his iceberg theory. It makes a lot of sense especially the bottom of the iceberg. The way he spoke about how the unconscious and how difficult it is too bring out the truth basically. Along with the truth about the conscious, the immediate information we can pull out like a file. Its easy and were use to knowing all this basic information that can be immediately found. Another really good point I have to agree with is the Eros and the Thanatos. These principles are defiantly seen in everyday life, like you comparing the Thanatos to sky diving or bungee jumping. I feel people do the thrilling dangers because they like the feeling of having controlling life in some sort of way. But on the other hand I find his theory of us wanting a sexual relationship with our parents to be completely ridiculous. We would know the difference between a family loving relationship to a sexual relationship. I cant agree with that. Freud has some very reasonable points that are an eye opener but he isn’t the most reasonable man on earth.
Sara
ReplyDeleteFreuds theory for the most part made sense to me. I can see how perhaps the unconscious dictates us somewhat in our conscious actions. I also mainly agree with the rest of his personality theory except i feel as though he may have obsessed about the sexual side of humans. Yes it is important but i have to disagree somewhat with how much he stresses it.Although i have some disagreements with that i find the rest of his theory to be fasinating, specifically the ego defense mechanisms which i can see others do and have done some of them myself.
Mitchell
ReplyDeleteSigmund Freud was an interesting person and had many interesting theories. I understand part of his Psychoanalysis, when he discusses importance of sexual and aggressive instincts. It makes sense to me because sex is important to the survival of the human race, we do it to re-populate. One thing that does not flow right with me is his testing with cocaine. There could be a logical answer to why he did it but it kind of ruins it for me. That’s just me. Freud’s whole thing about hypnotics is sketchy to me. I personally believe that hypnotics do not work effectively. His whole free association theory makes sense to me, it’s better than anything that he tried. It could be spotty, if you have a patient that is not open toward giving out memories. The one thing I really agree on is the level of Awareness that he worked on. The whole fight between the superego, and the ID. Do you want to satisfy your own needs or follow society rules? I agree with the Thanatos, which is the need to be destructive towards yourself. People like to feel” on the edge” all the time. The rush of adrenaline is amazing to some people
Drew
ReplyDeleteI believe with Freud theorie about repressed memories and how you can push them deep into your self conctious. I watched an episode of Necessary roughness and a female boxer kept blacking out in the ring and having nightmares. So she went to this therepist and she told the therapist about this dream that she keeps having. But the dream was actually something that happend to her when she was young and she blocked it out of her memory. This shows how you sub conciously repress tramatic meories that you do not want to remember.
Marissa N
ReplyDeleteThe part of Freuds sturcture of personality that makes the most sense to me is the id. I think it makes the most sense to me because i am a teenager, and I understand what most teenagers want. In my own words I think the id is basically a selfish way to get what you want. When you want something you can't have right away you keep trying to get it and you don't stop, and the urge to not stop is your id. This is basically what Freud was talking about in is "pleasure principle".
Marissa M
ReplyDeleteI agree with the boys because I also disagree with the fact that most people don't do something because there is a risk of death, unless they are in a serious state of depression i guess. But, considering people do participate in dangerous activities all the time, i guess you could argue that they are trying to see if they could defeat the action by living through it, almost like proving something wrong, going against human nature.
However, I do think that the unconcious can be revealed through actions, like Lara said. Millions of people probably prove this theory right every single day. I do things all the time subconciously. For example i'll move something without exactly knowing what im doing or why, or almost without noticing, and then later i'll ask myself how that object got in its current place.
I do majorly disagree with the fact that he thinks that everyone wants to have sex with their opposite parent when they are little. Gross. -_-
Rob C
ReplyDeleteSigmund Freud is quite the interesting figure. His theories presented are often ridiculous, but they are to the point with what he is trying to say. Even to our closest family and friends, we hide things consciously and subconsciously for many different reasons. I find it very fascinating that Freud figured out that the roots of our problems often times lie in the past, and they are buried under other parts of our lives. Freud could just delve into the subconscious like he was diving into a pool, and that’s what sets him apart from others of his kind.
chanelle
ReplyDeleteI believe in the theory that people block out the tramatic expierences that people go through so that they dont have to re-live it. Most people would want to move forward and so they push it to the back of their mind till it is forgotten. When I cant grasp is his statment that all people unconsciously want to die. And that the negative actions that people do are part of the thought of wanting to die.