Ok, now that you have seen the first "group session" run by Nurse Ratched, comment on the treatment methodology. Based on what you know about on a number of personality theories, does it make sense to use a group setting to help people confront and overcome their problems? What good, if any, could come from Nurse Ratched's "treatment?"
Due Tuesday, December 13.
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Drew
ReplyDeleteI do not agree with Nurse Ratched's treatment. She puts everyone in the group because she knows the patients will start arguing about the subject at hand. She wants them to get into this argument so she can find out the softer side of the person that she can use to control them. She minipulates the group and start conversations that will cause confrentation. The better way of confonting and overcoming their problems would probably be a one on one session so there is no judgment of others.
ROBB!E
ReplyDeleteNot many people are able to talk about highly personal topics to anybody, let alone a whole group of highly unstable psychiatric patients. I feel that Nurse Ratched has a very good façade when it comes to convincing the patients that she really is genuine. However we can see right through her, and tell that she is going to be a great villain. I feel that her treatment is going quite overboard and nothing good will come of putting the patients against each other. I just don't like her...
It does seem quite odd that Nurse Ratched would hold group sessions insted of one on one sessions. It has already been proven that they just cuase confrontations and do not really benefit the group as a whole. Some of the patients get put down while others feel better about themselves for putting down the others. I do not believe this methjod will work however i do believe Nurse Ratched has some sort of method to her madness.
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M!tchell Stevens
ReplyDeleteThis nurse Ratched should not be working for a mental hospital, to say the least. Her methods of a group discussion is kind of messed up. Its not really a group discussion, its more like a "yell loud" discussion. When they were arguing, she never tried to stop them at all. The camera panned over to her face, and she had that look on her face, like " Just look at that, i caused that". She seemed pleased of herself that she is causing such mayhem. In the second discussion, nobody sided with the change of schedule, even though people were with it. It just shows how much power nurse ratched has over the patients. Their scared of her, and she knows it. I don't like her but she play one hell of a role.
I both love and hate Nurse Ratched in this role. She is brilliant. Quietly exerting absolute control over her subjects, she cleverly exposes and picks at their Achilles's heels. While group therapy makes sense, as it allows for the interpretation of clouded and baised third party experiences by ones pees, Nurse Ratched's version of the practice is downright diabolical. It is an attack, a technique that destroys any progress that the patients might make in spite of her. By masking her hurting as helping, she thus becomes the ultimate villain: one whose treachery can be masked as an attempt at assistance. Her hair too is shaped in horns. She is Satan. In a dress. Like Marissa.
ReplyDeleteUsing a group for helping people solve problems only works for curtain things. She pretty much has everyone fighting and driving eachother mad. Since these men has psychological problems using a group to solve the problem doesn't work because of everyone's conditions. Nurse Rachet finds the people misery funny and entertaining. Also the way she talks makes people feel insignificant. Like Mcmurphy when he goes into the office she makes him feel like he's crazy. Instead of yelling or freaking out she's calm and this makes Mcmurphy act call and confused. She is a manipulative women who uses others problems to stay in control.
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ReplyDeleteI believe group settings are healthy to discuss important topics and an individual's problem, but not in the way Nurse Rachet went about it. Rachet seems to be a very mean spirited person and mistreats them based on their disabilities and mental capacity. She blames Mr. McMurphy for the problems going on in the hospital to try and turn the patients against him. The discussions that take place in the group settings are not healthy, and they turn into a arguement between everyone in the circle and it does not really help anyone. Perhaps if Nurse Rachet used a more humane approach and it was more civil, the patient's response would be better.
I’d first like to start off by saying that I hate Nurse Ratched. Group therapy can be a good thing however, it all depends on how it is run. By instigating discussion that she knows will anger the patients, Nurse Ratched sits back and watches them argue which is wrong. Her pusillanimous does not help her patients in any way, in fact it probably makes things worse. Based on what we know about personalities and how they work, her methods do not appear to be affective in the slightest.
ReplyDeleteI dont think any good can come out of her treatment. When they discuss their problems he doesn't really provide any solution, he just keeps asking them more and more questions. Also, I don't think the fact that the other crazy people in the group laugh at what the others say. It just gets them angry and side tracked. I think one on one therapy would be more effective
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Group therapy is a healthy way to let out feelings mentally ill patients may have, however, Nurse Ratched's form of group discussion and therapy isn't very effective. The sessions she holds only ends up with everyone fighting, and in the last scene, people in the disturbed ward. A group therapy session too is mainly for people with the same mental illness, where they all have the same problem and work on them together. These patients don't, they all are different which is also where the conflict kicks in. Nurse Ratched sits in the back and just watches all the up roar happen and does nothing, I don't think her form of group therapy is healthy and good for the patients.
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ReplyDeleteI think that the way she handles the boys and conducts the meeting is disturbing. She is purposly pushing them to their breaking point and once she does that, she continues to see how far that she can. I also was in awe when after the meeting she told them she feels like they made progress because all that was taken out of the meeting was the boys fighting and ganging up on one another.